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Monday, August 29, 2005

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Suzanne

In that the homeopathic medicines do have a positive effect because of their placebo value, doesn't that mean homeopathy does indeed have a place in medicine?

I'm a firm believer in mind over matter. Sometimes. :)

Interesting post.
Thanks.

gWallaceBurg

Quoting Bowditch, criminal from Australia, in matters of science and medicine doesn't bring a lot of credibility to your arguement. However, quoting Bowditch in matters of libel, defamation and child abuse would.

Liz

Peter Bowditch is the proprietor of The Millenium Project. To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Bowditch has never been convicted of anything, and therefore is not "a criminal" -- except perhaps in the minds of the quacks and shills he denounces.

Orac Knows reported on the 2004 awards.

Bowditch has been threatened with legal action many times, as a ploy to silence his skepticism.

I take allegations of child abuse seriously. I do not know if Mr. Bowditch has children himself. Bowditch takes on the "anti-vaccination activists" with vigor.


Anti-Vaccination Liars
It is almost beyond the comprehension of sane people that there should be organised opposition to vaccines. A special place should be reserved in Hell for people who want to kill or maim children by preventing them from receiving vaccinations.

I thought about changing the word "liars" here after investigation showed that many of these people are simply deluded, often through a lack of scientific knowledge. However, ignorance is no excuse, especially when any attempt to correct the ignorance or error is met with ridicule, spite and pride in ignorance. Something is not less wrong because you don't know it's wrong - the world was round when everyone thought it was flat and bacteria caused diseases before anyone suspected that such tiny organisms existed.

The child-abuser label seems to come about over the pros and cons of vaccinating children against chickenpox (varicella)* The quote below is from Bowditch's page entitled "Child Abuse"

For some reason, people seem to think that I refer to chickenpox as child abuse. This is not what I mean at all. Varicella is a serious medical condition. These children were abused because their parents thought that it was a matter of pride that the kids had become sick. This is as much a form of abuse as beating them or having sex with them. Perhaps more, because bashers and sexual predators usually don't publicly boast about the fact and show photographs to strangers in order to progress their perverted agendas. Anti-vaccination liars, however, hold as an article of faith that the end justifies the means.

For my money, Bowditch is a person of respectable scientific and skeptical credentials. I've forwarded gWallaceBurg's comment and ISP address to Bowditch.

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disclosure: I have one daughter and two stepsons. None were vaccinated against chickenpox, because all three had had the disease before the vaccine became available in the United States. IIRC, the vaccine came out in about 1993 or 1994. If I had small children now, I would not hesitate to innoculate them.

What I do not know is if vaccination against chicken pox will also later mean that the person is not at risk for shingles, which is a painful and debilitating condition.

vk

200 years of homeopathy was based on just placebo effect? Somebody is not observing and studying it right.

Some people jump and say "oh.. at high homeopathic dilutions there is not even a single molecule of the original remedy... so it can only be a quack". But how are we sure only molecular interaction can initiate a healing action? We don't have such a proof. It is a "thought" based on current level of science.

Homeopathy has astonishing healing power if you go to the right doctor and get the right remedy and potency. Now, the same type of people will jump again and say "..if it works it is only a placebo effect.." If placebo effect was that strong, drug companies could have marketed even ibuprofen for eczema. Because of the placebo effect, it must have cured many. I think the "placebo effect" itself is a placebo.

Articles like this will only help deny a simpe cost-effective cure to people, making them more desperate with fewer options and alternatives. I agree, homeopathy may not be effective for all conditions.

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