Former CEDU Schools Reborn

I wrote about the abrupt closing of CEDU schools in 2005 (complete index below the fold).

Thanks to a poster,  I was made aware that  Northwest Academy, Idaho and Boulder Creek Academy, Idaho have been reopened.  The properties were purchased by Universal Health Services.  which has a large inventory of behavioral health centers.  Northwest Academy (80 beds)  and Boulder Creek Academy (100 beds) are both listed as "behavioral health centers".

Northwest Academy's target market:

Northwest Academy students are 17-years old and at risk of not graduating high school because of emotional and behavioral challenges. Our students are bright, but recently have become unmotivated, have given up on their healthy passions such as sports, arts, and music, and are hindered by the conviction that they simply "do not care" that their choices are allowing life to pass them by.

Boulder Creek Academy's target market:

Boulder Creek Academy students have a history of emotional and learning struggles, and seek to be accepted.

These 14-18 year-olds are bright and creative, but learning differences and behavioral or emotional problems have hindered their academic performance. They often require direction to help them achieve to their potential.

While no two students are alike, a Boulder Creek Academy student typically faces emotional, learning, or behavioral challenges, has an IQ over 90 and (list of issues follows--see website)

Nothing I've read or heard about the "old" CEDU program would help kids with learning disabilities (a) by remediating the disabilities or (b) teach insight into the differences.

I wonder if the "new" CEDU is more targeted.  Somehow I doubt it.

• Former CEDU Schools Reborn January 5 2007
• Update on CEDU Schools October 28 2005
• CEDU Properties Sold August 18 2005
• The Business of Troubled Teens August 18 2005
•  CEDU Closing: Buildings and Contents to be Sold May 8 2005
• CEDU Closing: On Edison Schools April 30 2005
• CEDU Closing: Pete Talbott's Resume April 27 2005
• CEDU Closing: McCown DeLeeuw Sued ByEmployees April 14 2005
• CEDU Closing: George Locker's Criticism of the CEDU Enterprise April 14 2005
• CEDU Closing: 1990 Snapshot of McCown DeLeeuw April 12 2005
• CEDU Closing: A Timeline of the CEDU Enterprise April 2005
• CEDU Closing: Letter from a Former Faculty Member April 2005
• CEDU Closing: Parents of CEDU Students Helping Economically Distressed Faculty April 7 2001
• CEDU Closing: Economic Impact on CEDU Employees Devastating April 7 2005
• CEDU Closing: 310 Employees Stiffed on Wages April  6 2005
• CEDU Closing: Who is To Blame? April 6 2005
• CEDU Closing: Running Springs Area Also Suffers Financial Impact April 6 2005
• CEDU Closing: An Alumnus Pleads, "Save CEDU!" April 4 2005
• CEDU Closing:  A Parent's Response to CEDU's Closing April 3 2005
• CEDU Closing: Bankruptcy Trustee Slams Door Shut, Then Open April 3 2005
• CEDU Closing: Parents Out Prepaid Tuition, Employees Lose Retirement. McCown Deleeuw Still Solvent April 3 2005
• CEDU Closing: King George Stays Open as Head Thinks on Feet April 3 2005
• CEDU Closing Shocks Industry Reporter April 3 2005
• CEDU Closing: Parent Company, Brown, Negotiating in Bad Faith?  April 1 2005
• CEDU Closing: More Details March 29 2005
• CEDU Closing: Brown Schools, CEDU's Parent, Files for Bankruptcy March 29 2005
• CEDU Closing: Margurite Sallee, The Brown Schools, and McCown DeLeeuw March 27 2005
• CEDU Closing: All CEDU Schools Closing Immediately March 25 2005
• CEDU Closing: Rocky Mountain Academy Folds Abruptly February 12 2005

Related Posts:

• Debunking "Tough Love" Programs April 11 2006
• Advice for Parents Seeking a Therapeutic Program for Their Children January 21, 2006
• Why The "Troubled Teen" Industry is Booming January 2, 2006
• The Road To Whatever August 25 2005
• Nonpublic School Governance April 23 2005
• Why Parents Seek and Pay for Therapeutic Boarding Schools April 14 2005
• NYT Article on the Therapeutic School Industry April 13 2005
• Therapeutic Schools: What Happens to Poor Kids April 10 2005
• Thinking of Sending Your Kid to A "Tough Love" Program?  March 30 2005

Questions Parents Should Consider Before Placing A Child

• NonPublic Schools: Part I--Overview
• NonPublic Schools--Part II Evaluating Mission, Values, & Goodness of Fit for Your Child
• NonPublic Schools--Part III Faculty and Staff Qualifications
• NonPublic Schools--Part IV: Evaluating Academic Program
• NonPublic Schools:Part V--On Accreditation
• NonPublic Schools:Part VI--More Detail on Financial Issues: IRS Status

Comments

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Liz:
Cold-called NWA to get more info, this is what I got from admissions.

1. Kids MUST go through some form of wilderness first, such as ascent.

2. Crooked and over prescribing Dr. Ulrich still works with them

3. The program is for one year, and you must be at least 17 to go.

4. Raps are called groups and therapists are present. Admissions says it's "not as intense", for what it's worth. She said that people "really don't understand that kind of thing." Also said that people didn't really understand the term "rap" so they changed it to group. My interpretation: damage control

5. Fewer propheets because of the time a kid stays there. Not all were mentioned. The ones she talked about there were the dreams, the childrens and the I Want To Live.

6. They still do the I & Me and Summit

7. There are still watered down parent versions of the propheets (including the IWTL) The only difference being that they are now on campus. Less intense than what we went through, obviously, but longer than the old parent workshops from the 80s. Day, day and a half, about.

8. They now practice stepcraft. (i.e. 12 step, big book.)

9. Most staff from 80s and 90s have moved on to damage brains in other facilities. Most staff, with the exception of Ulrich, are new.

You can only decorate a twinkie so many ways. It's still an effing twinkie.

[blendshape]

apologies, I forgot no swearing. Liz here: No worries, I fixed it. Thanks for the update and the research. I wouldn't have known what to ask for.

[Susan Weddle]

My son lance would not be here today if wasn`t for CEDU.Is there a perfect school anywhere? But it was right for Lance and worked for our family. It sickens me to read the negative comments. It was Lancr`s behavior that got him to Cedu, I got rid of the guilt a long time ago,

Susan Weddle

[Brad Dwork]

Cedu was a joke! I am 1988 graduate. They made the students tell their most deepest secrets to everyone. I think that the staff got off on hearing about problems the students had with the law, friends and parents. they made the students tell everyone about the personal experiences (sexually). I think they tried to fuck with the students by telling them to tell all about when the got molested or had gay sex. I am straight, but I felt bad to see those kids have to go through that! wasn't life hard enough! I'm glad they shut down Cedu.

[Eric Swick]

I graduated in 1987 and had real life problems before and after the Cedu experience. Im thankful and proud to say I went to CEDU. Ive studied in depth alot of people and organizations that claim they have the right to work with kids because of some counseling cerificates. People like me needed real people, people that made it out of there own problems and could back it up. I wonder how many angry people out there know what San Quenton Prison is like? Ive seen hospitals and strightjackets up close and still dont understand why its legal and it qualifies as treatment. How about sedation? I think CEDU, at least when I was there wasnt for everyone but it was certainly designed for me. Im very sucessful now in my life and Im the most blessed person I know. Im sure there are many teens out there that feel like I did and Ill say If they dont get help, they will die or end up in prison. Ill take brainwash over prison and sedation anyday. Eric

[Shea Raftus]

I was a student at the new Boulder Creek Academy after it re-opened for two years. The school is a complete SCAM, they want to get as much money out of you as they possibly can. It was the absolute worst time of my life. The so called qualified staff and therapists didn't help me out at all they were more interested in making my life miserable by not letting me talk to my friends, or even have private phone calls with my parents. i am not lying when i say there was no therapy. if you are a parent reading this, i understand how you are seeking help for your kid. i hate to say it but if you send your kid to bca they will either have sex, use more drugs on campus, run, or be outcasted. I could only rely on close friends there for help.I have a friend named Melanie while I was there. She hates it there and its just making her sadder and sadder being there. She’s not happy, and after seeing all her friends leave, the only thing she wants to do is leave as well.Bottom line, if you want your son or daughter to be happy, don’t send them there, and you shouldn’t send them their any way. In short words, its not a “therapudic” boarding school, its a scam to get money from you. Shea

[Geoffrey S.]

I was sent to CEDU in May 1984, then transferred to RMA in August of the same year. I was “lazy” and as such was held back 2 peer groups, and never went through the workshops or moved past Challenge. So as the unqualified and untrained staff couldn’t find any way to expel me without having to explain to my parents where their $50,000 had gone, they ended up handing them a diploma and quietly shuffled me out as a “graduate”. Tim ‘B’ was the head of this pack of assorted lumberjacks, carpenters, mule-packers, liberal arts majors and washed-up history teachers at the time. He (Tim) actually happy admitted to me in a rap (GASP! “what’s said in a rap, -stays- in the rap!!) that what RMA did in its propheets & workshops –was- brainwashing, and that it was a –good- thing. Of course, the fact that NO ONE there was legally trained to do any such thing, and that there was no day-to-day staff member that was a trained, licensed and/or practicing physiatrist, psychologist or psychotherapist, was never talked about (or mentioned to the parents), nor was the fact that RMA was practicing behavioral modification therapy without any license or permission from Bonner County, or the State of Idaho. Am I bitter? You bet. Are the few classmates I have kept in touch with bitter? You bet. Do I wish co-survivors Bailey & Alex hadn’t committed suicide? Yes, deeply. I despise the “staff” that experimented with our heads & hearts, and I deeply despise Mel Wasserman, who in my opinion was a failed furniture salesman and unrepentant abusive bully who became filthy rich at the expense of countless vulnerable children and gullible parents. I met him once (and once was too often) and I have seen only ONE of his palatial estates in Connecticut. My only hope is that someday all “institutions” comparable to his are shut down and banned, and that the troubled kids from such places will receive the medical therapy they need. If you think I am alone in these opinions, pleas visit http://www.fornits.com/.

[Angel]

I'm sure about 10% of CEDU grads got something good out of the program. The other 90% ended up as unfortunate casualties of the torture and abuse. To all you CEDU parents out there who love the program, my health and mental integrity were not for sale...nor was my sanity available to barter for your kid’s future. Many of us were normal teenager who, after enduring years of bad parenting, got thrown away. We, the survivors of chronic abuse and neglect, paid the price for the salvation of your loved ones. We will carry the scars left by the experience for the rest of our lives, and for what? So YOU can sleep soundly knowing your child is going to be okay? How could you be so selfish? My opinion is that if your kid needed CEDU then YOU as a caregiver really messed up. Children with healthy families don't end up in teen prisons.

[Cant say my name 99-01 RMA]

edited, lightly, for curse words

WOOT ANGEL nicely said!
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Eric Swick

Im glad it worked for you honestly.
it did change alot as it got close to closeing time, they changed the abilty to leave campus,date,smoke, and countless other things added profets the more they took away in the name of safty the more unsafe it got. i allways wished i could have seen it the way the students that had chosen to go back and work their to try and save it said it was sounded like a healty place to be.

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Susan Weddle

"My son lance uwould not be here today if wasn`t for CEDU.Is there a perfect school anywhere? But it was right for Lance and worked for our family. It sickens me to read the negative comments. It was Lancr`s behavior that got him to Cedu, I got rid of the guilt a long time ago,"

I hope it did work for your son but;
You have no idea what its like to have no rights and how much you take them for grantent till you are striped of them its a real f@cked up place to be. and no matter how much you think you can understand that and how they told you you went thur the same things you didnt they lied to you. and we were forced to help. they knew the kids to pick and you got one shot if you said anything they didnt like you would have no contact with the outside world and if you did it right you would be rewarded.

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Its scarry how the parrents say the same thing word for word.
Even they were Brain washed and they got the ultra light pretty much didnt get anything version.
my family still thinks im lieing about what happend there seriosly im 27 it was over 12 years ago and you think im lieing i wish they would just listen to me but ive learned not to ever talk about it they asked a frined that was there with me if i was lieing and she laughed at them so they wrote it off as she was lieing you can say you have no guilt but you wouldnt have to say it if you didnt and you should but its not your fault they're pros at stealing money minds and lives.
Some of the family munipulter seriously need to work for the CIA and FBI.
I liked the concept but the way they went about it was wrong on more lvls than i care to talk about. im really sad to hear it reopened i prided myself on helping to bring down that hell hole from the inside.
i member i had one friend there who was on so many drugs he didnt need the DR made him take he couldnt talk he had to sleep all day. and they used to make me change the dates on the food the day before the inspectors came. i do miss the lil old lady in the kitchen tho cant think of her name. and when i wanted to talk to my lawyer and they laughed at me "I dont know whos gonna call him cuz im not" they wouldnt even let me talk to my probation officer they knew they had to keep a tight lid on things becaues you had no rights there you learned to walk carefuly i wonder if the girl that was hit by Dean so to speak that disapered into a lock up Mental intatute so she couldnt tell anyone what happend is ok.
I also was never aloud to go to school no matter how much i tried to stay out of trouble some staff had it out for me i did manul labor my entire stay. do i think it has something to do with the neo-nazi compound down the road and me not being white... its sertinly strange. thank god some of the teacher and staff broke all the rules and risked their jobs and freedom to look after the kids they like. I had a temp. of 107!!!!107!!!!!! they told me to drink water and that i was faking even tho i sat there in the nurses office with them taking my temp and some how i must have fudged the test, real lucky i didnt die.(hospital stays are bad for biz) my best friend from there left when she got phnamonua and her right lung started to fail... they would have gotten her killed if her mother was not a docter and relized the saverity of the neglect that would have had to encure to let it get to that stage in this day and age!

im sure lance learned the same things we all did a few life tips act; like your so honest no one can stand next to you; sell it like you talk to the parents, smile lie thur your teath and hide everthing.

i never did drugs before i would say no people wouldnt even tell me cuz id tell them off for doing it i left RMA after all the stories.....Ive od'ed on everthing there is to od on. my mom says the same like Lances does. when i finaly needed my moms help cuz i had a 3k a week cocain addiction, she said but there were no signs... i know i learned somthing at RMA.
Im alive cuz im lucky.

I dont know a single person that left the program and didnt hit rock bottem. i still talk to about 40 some odd precent of the people i went there with and a few that went before me. the IWTL did help me get clean but i would have never needed it if i had never gone there, when you live with no hope and return to a world where thats the driving force and your free to do what ever its hard real f@ckin hard to remember what hope is and how to have it.

LOOK AT THIS THERES PEOPLE 20 YEARS LATER TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW BAD THIS PLACE IS WERE NOT F@CKING MAKING THIS SH1T UP WAKE THE F@CK UP THINK WHERE THERES SMOKE THERES FIRE. IF WE WERE MAKING IT UP IT WOULD BE ALL KIDS FRESH OUT NOT FULL GROWN ADULTS TRING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE PLACES!!!!!!!!!!!

SEND YOUR KIDS TO MILLITARY SCHOOL IF YOU HAVE TO SEND THEM SOME WHERE AT LEAST THE SCHOOL'S CARFULY COMBED OVER AND THE KIDS ARE LOOKED AFTER.

THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS SAVED MY LIFE. CEDU ALLMOST COST IT.

[Cant say my name 99-01 RMA]

oh and i was transfred form childrens prison to RMA i begged to go back to everyone that would listen and thats part of why they wouldnt let me talk to my probation\paroll oficer. at least i was safe. i didnt have to worry about how bad it could get, i knew, and people came to talk to you from the state to see how you were being treated you had rights the list goes on its a long one.

[Shea Delany]

CEDU was a joke. The staff were ill-trained and the institution itself was nothing more than a money machine preying upon parental fear. I fought their system relentlessly throughout my stay and eventually was able to get out through a series of "threatening" actions and running away. I was young and immature but looking back, any reasonable adult could have found countless holes in their philosophy and it's emotionally damaging practices. They sent me to a mental hospital when I refused to be there and threatened me with jail if I wouldn't return. I called their bluff and two months later I was home. They lied to my peers and told them that I had been sent to a far worse lockup facility. That being said, they taught me accountability and a sense of self that could not be realized in any other type of environment. Hated it at the time but wouldn't change it if I could. Staff were still a joke and the majority of the students were spoiled brats who crashed and burned upon completion no matter how righteous they acted within the program. The ones it worked for though, it worked for. Interesting experiment in the human condition.

[advocate]

has anyone reported some of what goes on to child protective services in the state where a "school" still operates (either with a name change or new ownership) they might investigate because there is something called "institutional abuse".
Also, there is a website that reports on and tracks abuses that occur in residential settings. http://isaccorp.org/aboutus.asp

[victim of 1980]

I still can't believe this is being rehashed after 28 years. And, I can't believe that the kool-aid drinkers at Cedu, regardless if they worked there are were students, still declare it was a wonderful experience.

It wasn't. It didn't work, and it didn't help.

Marcie Padgett was the ONLY one there with a semi-college education. Where did the overly priced institution get off on charging outlandish tutions for an uneducated staff? That still amazes me to this day. I would call that fraud, wouldn't you?

I would compare the staff to the Key Stone Cops. A pig farmer by the name of Pat Brown. No education in child psychology. Dan Earle, whose sexual exploits are now a legend. He "did" one of the students, which is a disgusting example of leadership and ethics.

The rap sessions were anything BUT therapeutic, and did more damage then good.

Cedu was nothing but a highyly paid baby sitter for parents that dropped the ball. And some of the parents really were horrible and abusive.

I thank God it's over. I thank God the school got closed down.

[Bobo Lipstuck]

While not a direct care staff, I did work at RMA in the late 80's. Even while there, I was amazed at the idots that they entrusted to help these kids. The most important message I took away from RMA: Always Question Authority.

[sara]

Could there be a worse school? NO. What a joke Cedu was. Tried to brainwash students didn't help whatsoever. The teachers weren't credentialed highest level they taught was 10th grade. This school put me way behind and Im still working to catch up in UC college now. No child deserves the abuse of Cedu. U rich ignorant parents need to look at what u r doing to ur kids. You're children are a reflection of u. Dont try to blame them and punish them.

[Tiffany]

All you retards complaining are most likely still the same stupid adults as you where children.... You probably suffer the same problems because you haven’t gained any knowledge and you refuse to move on from the past. I was the youngest person ever to have gone to Cedu Middle School.... I went to many more boarding schools after, and got worse after; but that’s because I was just growing up, being a teenager.... Today I'm a college graduate, who's going back for my PhD in clinical psychology.
I suggest all you bratty as rich kids, start being thankful you got to go on trips every month to some of the most beautiful places in California. Shit we played 90% of the time and went to school and worked the other... You weren't sent there to keep up with school, you where sent to Cedu to save your life; in an attempt to prevent you from struggling as an adult. I knew kids from there that ended up committing mass murders, kids that are in prison, kids who became adults and are millionaires, kids who are bible thumpers….. There all out there. The school didn’t make or break anyone; people have to be accountable for the life they have created period! I’m a success because I have worked hard, not because Cedu made me a success; the same holds true for those of you who are failing in life…. Or so I love to say “suck at life”….
I suggest all you bratty as rich kids, start being thankful you got to go on trips every month to some of the most beautiful places in california. Shit we played 90% of the time and went to school and worked the other... You weren't send there to keep up with school, you where sent to Cedu to save your life. You where sent there to prevent you from being a fucked up adult. My guess i

[ERIC SWICK]

WOOT ANGEL , NOT SURE WHERE YOU GOT MY WORDS BUT I SUPOSE THERE NOT BAD. MY OPINION IS THAT ITS TRAGADY THAT THIS EXISTS IN THE PRESENT. IN MY OPINION, YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF VERY SPOILED PEOPLE. ITS BEEN MY BLESSING TO SPEND TIME WITH OTHERS THAT HAD REAL BAD PROBLEMS ALSO. SITTING IN A SHOE CELL FOR MANY MONTHS NOT TO MENTION THAT WHO EVER I MET I CAN PROMISE ALL OF YOU THAT THEY WOULD NEVER BE POSTING OR EVEN TRYING TO POST AN OPINION. THAT IS ONE REASON WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT BUT VERY BLESSED. YOU CAN VENT HERE. CANT YOU? AND YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING DONT YOU? THERE ARE SOME THAT WILL NEVER.....AND CAN NEVER....EVEN GET TO THAT. GOD GAVE ME TWO EARS AND ONE MOUTH. LISTENING TOOK YEARS. BLAME EVERYONE. HA. WHAT DID YOU DO TODAY......? JUST CAME ACCROSS THIS SITE WHEN I ENTERED MY NAME. HOPE ALL HAVE GOOD FEELINGS AND KEEP ON KEEPIN ON. PEACE.

[Thanks cedu for nothing.]

Tiffany, I pray to God you aren't in the position of helping troubled teens. Clearly, you don't have a clue. Or, you are a former CEDU staff member. So, which is it? Are you a staff member or just an idiot? Ah, I just think you're an idiot with a big mouth.

I'm thankful cancer has taken the majority of the horrible abusive counselors off this planet. Karma is funny that way, I guess.

Decades later, we are still troubled and haunted by our wonderful "Cedu experience."

[sj]

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[Dale Monday Kolins]

It saddens me to read such negative assessments by former students - a child in pain - for whatever reason - is beyond terrible for a parent to watch - we will do anything to help - sometimes the situation gets so bad we have to take a step back and admit that we need help - parenting does not come with a procedure manual - we simply try to do our best and hope that one day our beloved child will understand we love them and tried to do our best
My daughter attended CEDU high school in running springs - she passed away in 2001 - ten years ago last saturday - but thanks to CEDU we were given 4 more years with her and were able to develop a close relationship - she had a terrible disease - addiction - but her father and i came to know her as a young woman - who struggled and finally lost the battle - but that was not all she was - we got to see her dreams and hopes
There is no such thing as perfect - whether it be a school, a family or a life - we all have challenges to face
I ask this question - rhetorical - if you saw your child drowning in a swimming pool, would you stand on the edge and watch, would you shout encouragement, or would you dive in - perhaps risking your own life- to save your child? There is and was not much out there for parents to turn to for help - but we looked at what was available and made a choice - and i would do it again in a skinny minute if needed - i know in my heart we did all that was humanly possible - i can live with that - but i could not live with myself if i thought we had just sat back and wstched her self-destruct

[outofagreement]

you know, thats the same thing i still tell my parents. i understand what you were faced with, scared watching your child, wonder what the hell they are thinking. won't talk to you.

but in the end i think the parents were manipulated more than we were. you're right, we all did come from rich families, some of which were forced to sell their houses just to afford to keep us "taken care of" cha ching. convinced the home their children had grown up in was not as important as "being committed to your child"cha ching. oh, your child is about to turn 18 and you're worried that they are going to leave? don't worry extended custody is extremely easy to get in idaho, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OUR SCHOOLS HERE! just talk to dr. ulrich and he'll assure you that your child is "not ready to be a member of society".

i don't think poorly of any parent CEDUced by the same disgusting system we were placed in. i'm still afraid to use words like "system" and "machine" to describe a larger picture because its ideas like that that get you sent to NIBH. i'm still afraid to watch the secret of NIMH. north idaho behavioral health, national institute of behavioral health. . . a movie fair to say is definatly out of agreement( even if it is your 18th birthday).

just reading any of these comments, good or bad, about northwest academy is making me cry. if i learned anything(even though i was told i learned nothing because i graduated out of agreement) i learned how hide my emotions. when everyone is staring at you, watching your reaction, watching to see if the muscles in your temples are flexing, nostrils flairing, heavy breathing, figiting, you learn to control all of those formally involentary functions... and you learn to watch for those in others. manipulation is a two way street.

the only satisfaction is received from my time in idaho was in chemistry class(a class not offered at northwest, so i got to go to rocky mountain academy, a treat at five in the morning). our teacher had just gone through the I am ME, not with us but we all too had been through that so we were aloud to talk about it together. needless to say if you didn't do your homework all you had to do was say something like, "I was going to do my homework but ME had just had a hard phone call with my parents." well then it was on to hear about her parents and her life and her fiance'. turns out that after the I am ME our chemistry teacher and her fiance' were having some problems. "whats wrong? doesn't he understand what you're going through? isn't he supportive? "you know what he said when i told him about it? he said i was crazy! can you believe that? he said he didn't believe in the whole system. he left me." that was my first positive contact with the outside world. you mean, i'm not the only one who thinks this is crazy? i couldn't even talk to my friends about these things lest they confront me in a rap(that's where you are encouraged to confront people. you know, it's more safe(and tattling) when you confront someone infront of a staff member.

chemistry was not my strong suite(not that it mattered because we only made it to chapter 4. when i was sent away in the middle of my senior year we were in at least chapter 20) but that didn't matter, none of us wanted to do chemistry and we all were upper school students so we would just have a little rap with our teacher as the subject. the teacher whos fiance' left her because he disagreed with the system she had placed all hope in. she, like all you parents, was manipulated by a horrible, money making, power hungry and repulsive corporation.

you don't need to apologize to your child for sending them away... just apologize for sending us here

[outofagreement]

Peer group 12 NWA

[danya b]

i went to cedu middle school, highschool, ascent,rma, and i didnt graduate from any of them. from feb.93-march.95. it was hell on earth. do you know what its like to sleep in a sleeping bag wrapped in a tarp,on a bed of ice for a week and a half in the mountains of northern idaho 17 miles from the canadian border the last two weeks of january.and from morning to night sit in the middle of the perimeter/sheet of ice under the idaho sky on the end of a stump, the width of which is no bigger than the palm of my hand. i had to ask permission to stand or walk, neither of which could warm me. this went on for 11 days before i was allowed to join the others. does that sound appropriate for a 12 year old girl to live through? fuck you i do have a problem with authority wouldnt you? i could write book on ascent alone. i have a million more stories like this. the time i ran away from the high school so they sent me to rma, where i got in trouble for playing poker so they sent me ascent where i froze to death.anyone want to ghost write a book??? i feel sorry for those who allowed themselves to be brainwashed and actually praise their experiences there. the only ability one learns through graduation from a cedu school is the ability to bullshit on a grande scale or for the weaker personalities who allowed themselves to be broken down physically, emotionally and spiritually only to be rebuilt in their image believing that reality. a pod person, stepford, what have you?