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Sunday, September 23, 2007

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Lisa

Reminds me of the time I had my 1st graders construct foil boats of different shapes and designs, and we then tested them to see which held the most marbles. One girl scrunched hers up into a little ball, so it only held seven marbles. Her classmate spread his out so it was flat and even, like a foil aircraft carrier, and it held over 400 marbles. When we had a class discussion about the results and the 400-marble boat was declared to be the best design for holding more marbles, the girl started to pout. Another classmate said, I think just to make her feel better, "Well, don't worry. It really all came out the same." I had to stop the class for several minutes to explain that we had to go by the actual results of the experiment, not just what we wanted to happen or what we thought would make everybody feel happy.

Hopefully they won't need that lesson again when they're in graduate school, though judging by some of my experiences, they probably will.

CrypticLife

Unfortunately, Liz, you are likely to find yourself the naive one. Psychology is VERY often done in exactly that fashion. Science and measurable results are dirty words in many circles. There are entire theoretical frameworks set up purely through one person's conjecture (e.g., somatotype theory, birth order theory -- and those are incredibly mild examples). Consider that constructivist education is based off Piagetian theory, and he was likely one of the more empirical psychologists of the time. At least he observed the children he was trying to study instead of inventing what he thought they might do.

When people say psychology is all crap, I sympathize (I don't entirely agree, but I don't blame them for feeling that way).

Bonnie Sayers (autismfamily)

I just found this via autism diva post on Jenny and the problem of illusions.

I am trying to find some info out on the tweets that were done today on #autismone on twitter from JMc keynote where she stated that 20 yr olds are talking for the first time after starting gfcf.

Seems no one brought up the source for this at the Q&A and I am asking those at the conference who tweeted it and one seems riled up at me for asking the question.

I saw the Indigo site years ago when Jenny was first mentioned in a LA yahoo group and I had no idea who she was so searched around for her info

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