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Thursday, April 16, 2009


Chicken Little

I believe that Mr Anderson stated that the Police had Video running of his attempted murder by Police. I would ask all of you to demand to see this Video.

Bob Helm

It seems our dear pastor Anderson has a little drug use and sale in his past.

As Anderson pointed out everything at the checkpoint is on video.

In the video the Border Patrol guys are acting very professional for an hour +, and Anderson is being a total jackass.

Not a pastor I want leading my church!

Liz here -- I emailed Helm to ask him to substantiate his claim. The email address is bogus. "Steven Anderson" is such a common name the allegation would be difficult to pin down by a third party.

Absent evidence to the contrary, I'd say Helm's claim is bogus


edited to make the YouTube link clickableUm...he seems to have a history of baiting the Border Patrol. Here's a video posted on his YouTube account in February, 2009 in New Mexico.
In the video, he is completely uncooperative, won't open his window, tells them to keep their hands off his car, trying to force the 4th amendment, starts screaming at them to get their hands off his car, etc.

Calls them a liar. The Border Patrol agent is Hispanic with a heavy accent. It escalates. He refuses to allow them to search his vehicle without a warrant, incorrectly claiming that without a warrant, they may not search his car.

I suspect he intentionally baits these confrontations on a regular basis. I would guess that he is well-known among the Border Patrol in those parts.

Devon Young

EXACTLY the kind of guy I want running MY church.

Oh, and IF the guy did drugs in the past, that does NOT give a border patrol agent with a bone the right to hassle the pastor. These goons work for us, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Got that?

You call someone a liar when he lies. It's a perfectly good word with a specific meaning. The agent LIED, so the guy called him a LIAR. I got no problem with the truth. What is wrong with YOU? You just trust anyone in a uniform, kiddo? Wise up.

smart american

So according to your lame attempt to discredit Pastor Steve, you say, "FWIW, the Andersons are also antivaccination." which just goes to show your ignorance! WE ARE AT WAR WITH A POLICE STATE WHO THINKS THAT IT IS OKAY TO STOMP OUR CONSTITITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

I can't wait for them to come to your house and break in without a warrent... I pray it happen to your family soon


How do you know that there was drug use in his past?

Liz Ditz

@Bob Helm,

I've emailed you to ask you to substantiate your claim that Pastor Anderson has "a little drug use and sale in his past."

@smart american, I can see that you are not a regular reader of this blog. Folks who have the Andersons' attitude toward vaccination have a thinking problem.


His politics in general are irrelevant. I have to agree with him in this case: The 4th Amendment was created as a direct result of English soldiers searching any house indiscriminately in search of revolutionaries back in the day. The process of getting a warrant is our protection of privacy.

Look at it another way: undo burden. What if there were checkpoints every 1 mile along all roads within 100 miles of the border? What if all houses within 100 miles of the border could be searched repeatedly, at any time, without cause? Does that sound like it shouldn't be legal?


It's disheartening to read these post and realize how often ignorant people throw their "rights" around demanding things when they have no understanding of the law.

Trained dogs alerting to a car is probable cause, probable cause means that it is guaranteed to be worthy of a warrant. If he questioned the probable cause he should have use his real right to fight it in court rather than belligerently barking at the officer.

Sjoerd de Boer

The actions of this "pastor" is a stench to real christianty. At first sight, watching the pastors testimony on youtube it is indeed terrible. But if anyone bases his point of view and reaction on what you see in a short videoclip, he might be very well mislead and in this case, if we investigate what was going on for some time with this pastor, we should not be very surprised and say...ohh wait a minute. For his case the pastor made a few significant mistakes. The first and biggest mistake is by posting a month or so before this happened another clip on you tube with a recording of another conversation between pastor and Border Patrol Agents. Watching this video I even admire the patience of the BPA's toward this provoking person. Why would someone claim his rights when friendly be asked to cooperate to make/keep this country safe for its citizens? No, provoke them! Give them reason to suspect me, heaving something to hide, so I can make a case that I am a law abiding citizen, who claims his rights? To me this is clearly a case of twisting the truth as the pastor also does with almost all of his "sermons" and writings on the web. Search and you will find out IF you love the truth. This man is narcissistic, self-righteous, condemning anyone who does not agree with him and that needs to be exposed.


I do believe that border control checkpoints are a violation of the Constitution, however, as a citizen it is not my role to determine the constitutionality of a existing law. That is the role of the US Supreme Court. Unfortunately, the US Supreme Court made a ruling on a very broad and liberal interpretation of the The Constitution, however, the ruling has been made and so therefore it is a legal law.

That being said, sometimes it is necessary to force an issue to be heard in court. Pastor Anderson's actions and case may very well find itself back up in the US Supreme Court, however, in this day and age, I feel that once again, in the interest of National Security, it would receive a broad and liberal ruling .. again.

I could make the case that the use of a police dog to determine probable cause is bit of a hypocrisy, the very use of the dog itself is an unwarranted search and seizure, where is the probable cause to use the dog in the first place?

I recommend people do their research on colonial America and the Revolutionary War. Especially read about the Sons of Liberty.

The Sons of Liberty, of which American patriot hero's Samuel Adams and John Hancock were members of, DIRECTLY provoked and challenged the British Crown in response to what they felt was unfair and illegal actions. Make no mistake about it, they were rabble-routers and instigators, but their actions directly caused the British Crown to escalate their actions in response, it was those actions that caused further resentments towards the British Crown from the Colonial Americans at the time.

Most people view these men as hero's and patriots. Some view them as outlaws and terrorists. But make no mistake about it, without the actions of the Sons of Liberty, Samuel Adams cousin, John Adams, never would have had a country to be the second president of.

You might want to reread the Declaration of Independence sometime and familiarize yourself with the grievances we had against the King. You might find some uncomfortable similarities.

It was Liberty that caused this nation to be the greatest nation on earth. But we also had a healthier respect for God back then, too.

A. Reich

I do think more people need to know their Revolutionary War history. Why do we just accept authoritarianism without scrutiny. Further, the "asides" that come into play (anti vaccinations, baiting the officers, questioning checkpoints) greatly bother me. We're giving too much of our freedom away. We're not asking the right questions.

James Keith

RE: Posted by: Steven
You don't know enough about Anderson to compare him with Samuel or John Adams.
Go watch Anderson’s disgusting videos of his sermons on YouTube, very hate filled, angry and controlling man. Anderson is only out to gain personal attention and the power he thinks a full church will gain him. Samuel Adams and John Adams, understood the fight for liberty and demanded personal integrity.

Both of whom would have most likely shot Anderson had they come across Anderson burning Bibles!

Fred Daniel

Just watch anything on youtube by this man, and you will see his thinking about government, governing officials, and officers of the law does NOT mesh with what the New Testament teaches.

Allen Stevens

Could not have happened to a better person. ANYBODY, and I mean ANYBODY that threatens, or intices people to violence against the President of the United States is a criminal under U.S. Criminal code. He got what he deserves, and God will judge him one day for his actions and his sermons. The God I know, shuttered when he heard this pastor spew out hate. A Godly man would NOT want harm done to ANY person no matter what. He should be stripped of his church and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

dr. bob the turd

You people are amazing. You think Border check points in AZ are unconstitutional, but demand the government defend us from the "illegals". No wonder your called wingnuts...


Lets see it's Ok TO arrest a man for breaking into his own house but not ok to arrest a white man ctrying to cross the borders refusing to let the police seacrh his car.

Sounds like Pastor Steven just became black to me.

Thank you Jesus there is a God after all


Why does this guy think he's special and above the law? Most everyone gets stopped since 911. I am glad he got a taste of his own medicine after refusing to comply. Furthermore I am hoping he gets arrested for calling for the death of the President. Many of us white Christians are appalled at these bigoted, uneducated wanna-be Christians who can't follow the Bible or the law.


I can hear in your voice, your a gay man. So, all this comes together


This man cannot in any way shape, form, or fashion be a man of God!


Dear PAstor,
I am ashamed to be a christian I consider you, to be hate
filled pastor. Listen to you on Alan Colmes I consider you to be a threat to society. To all of you praying President Obama to die. I pray you all recieve cancer. This is why i stay away from organized religion and pray you fail in your attempt as a church. Church is not for hate and I am ashamed to be a christian. I blame the republican party for the last adminstration hates the poor and disabled and I am tired of you hate filled preachers. I would like to throw eggs on you. I consider you a threat.
Sincerely Ron


Mr. Anderson

I do not consider you a pastor because a pastor does not wish death upon someone. I do not know what God you serve, but it is not the same God that I serve. I will pray for you.

Rich Runyan

Prejudice of any sort can never be explained by logic. That is what the hatred of homosexuality is just another form of prejudice. Some people couch their disapproval by quoting the bible. Then again, there are many differences of opinion as to who wrote the bible, and even if it is relevent today.

There are many men who are fearful of the state of their own sexuality. Those are the ones who are the "gay bashers". Secure, mature people are not threatened by another person's lifestyle.

james smith

This is not a pastor,this is a sinful fool. a fool is known by his words


We will kill him.


And I will kill you!


Mr.Anderson in your speech you said quote i hate barack obama. now you are a so called pastor that believes in the word of god. mr. anderson i love you because we should love everyone. it is written in the new testament that jesus is love. now im gonna let uknow hating is a sin. and you say you hate. you should not hate you should love, even if you dont like president obamas vote for abortion you should not wish his death. because while youre wishing his death and hating him youre sewing a seed and it is not a good one those who sew bad seeds will not enter the kingdom of heaven. so i come to warn you love thine enemy those who hate thine enemy do not know god for god is love and loves everyone even those who do things that are wrong. true enough pres.obama shouldnt vote for new born souls to be killed but mr.anderson hating him which is totally against gods will wont help you or him.also you want pre. obama murdered let your men that plot against and wish to murder pres.obama matt.5:21-22 says you have heard of the old times thou shalt not murder and whoever murders shall be in danger of the judgement, but i say unto you he that is angry with his brother enough to kill him will be in danger of the hell fire. but see i want you to come to heaven i wish for everyone to be saved. but that is your choice i bring you these things i say from the word of god. i will pray for you and keep you in my prayers. may the lord be with you.


your a pig


I've watched a few of Anderson's clips on You Tube and it left me feeling such an overwhelming sense of disgust and almost pity for this man. He obviously has no idea what he is trying to teach and I believe that he is just saying whatever words come to his lips. He is not an educated man and it is extremely apparent to everyone the moment he opens up his mouth. As for his congregation, they are just as mentally unstable as their wanna-be leader. It's ashame that Anderson doesn't take this opportunity seriously and attempt to teach the church the real and true teachings of Christ. Instead he is poisoning them with his own hatred and misguided beliefs. For that, he will burn in hell.


I am gay and I am hurt by some of the things Pastor Anderson preaches .. however, what happened to him at the checkpoint was egregiously abusive and a violation of his rights under our Constitution ... he asked the reason why he was stopped, he asked if he was being detained, he asked if he was free to go, he did not consent to a search of his car .. the dog was obviously brought in to conjure up convenient probable cause ... he seems like an intelligent man, so he had grounds to question the legitimacy of it all, though I have to say, it was not the time and place to do so ... if they say they have probable cause you should get out of the car and let them searched it .. if you don't, they have a right to arrest you ... if you resist arrest they feel they can use duress since they can always claim they deemed you dangerous ... on a different note, it is ironic to see the Pastor so enraged by what happened to him when I am constantly afraid that, it would be the people like him, our own taliban, had they had their way with the law in this country, who would have me arrested, put in jail or even killed for being gay


To those who are defending Pastor Anderson I would suggest you check all his Youtube postings (sanderson1611) which include a number of church sermons one of which he wished Obama to die and his kids become orphaned. He also posted a video where he confronted an airport security personnel who was just doing his job. This guy is probably running for office in the future and he knows that creating a scene and using youtube is a fast way to popularity. Do not be decieve.


Steven Anderson -

Matthew 5:39-45

39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Edward Jackson

When I first heard about what happened to Anderson, I was concerned, and looked into this further. After seeing his preaching on youtube, I can see why he was considered a danger to law inforcement, and not allowed to travel, until his charges were dismissed. I traveled through these checkpoints many time, as a big rig operator. Having the checkpoints where they are, is for a reason Mr. Anderson does not seem to grasp. So, as far as I am concerned, Mr. Anderson asked for it, and he got it...


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I have listened to a number of Pr Steve's sermons from his church's website and I like him. He's a bit of a red-neck and his utterances often lack compassion, but he's honest and what he says is to a very large degree bible-based.
I don't agree with every interpretation he makes from scriptures but that's OK, I don't know everything. I like to hear new ideas that challenge mine and I especially like to hear someone speaking out against the deception that makes a virtue of tolerance of abortion, fornication, sodomy, you name it, that we have so much of in today's world, both in USA and Australia where I live.
If I sound like an extremist myself, that's the price I pay for telling it like it is. I study the bible every day and have done for the last 5 years. I've still got a lot to learn but based on what I read I believe Pr Steven is sincere, if a bit harsh at times.
But - take the good bits and don't be influenced by the rest.

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